Curators Jenny Robb and Caitlin McGurk took me on a 45-minute guided tour of one of my favorite places: the Billy Ireland Cartoon Library & Museum on the OSU campus in Columbus, Ohio. Really fun. Watch the video.
A(nother) conversation with Beth Pickens
Earlier this month I had the pleasure of getting to chat about Don’t Call It Art with art coach Beth Pickens. I started off the conversation by describing the dream I had after seeing Bob Dylan live:
You can watch the whole thing here.
Making art in a noisy world

I enjoyed this hour-long chat with Panio Gianopoulos of Author Insider, but even better, several people have told me it was helpful to them.
The topic — “Making Art in a Noisy World” — could’ve been a subtitle for my book Keep Going.
Two recent conversations
I had two really nice conversations recently that I thought were worth sharing:
1. I talked to cartoonist Jason Chatfeld about attention, showing up, comedy, and how to keep going.
What started as a conversation about creative routines turned into a masterclass on attention management, the importance of play, and why treating your art like a comedy might be the secret to actually surviving as a creative person.
2. I talked to Marcus Goodyear and Camille Hall-Ortega of The Echoes Podcast about what it means to create something beautiful in the age of AI.
An excerpt that seemed to resonate with people:
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You can listen to our entire conversation here.
Nice News profile
A very nice profile of me over at Nice News covers a bunch of the stuff I practice and preach.
“It’s funny. I consider myself a deeply lazy person,” Kleon answered with a laugh when asked how he manages to be so prolific. “And that’s where the discipline comes in.”
He said that many people are intimidated by that word — discipline — but the way he defines it is simple, and comes courtesy of guitarist Robert Fripp: making a commitment in time. “Just showing up over and over again is kind of my way that I get over everything, over my laziness, over my apathy, over my despair at what might be going on in the wider world,” Kleon shared.
(That excerpt led to today’s newsletter, “The subtle art of showing up.”)
Big thanks for Rebekah Brandes for her thoughtful questions and great writing.
You can read the whole piece here.
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