Nice News profile

A very nice profile of me over at Nice News covers a bunch of the stuff I practice and preach.

“It’s funny. I consider myself a deeply lazy person,” Kleon answered with a laugh when asked how he manages to be so prolific. “And that’s where the discipline comes in.”

He said that many people are intimidated by that word — discipline — but the way he defines it is simple, and comes courtesy of guitarist Robert Fripp: making a commitment in time. “Just showing up over and over again is kind of my way that I get over everything, over my laziness, over my apathy, over my despair at what might be going on in the wider world,” Kleon shared.

And showing up means just that. You just need to be there.

“If I had to boil down my message for everyone, it’s just to find a time and a place every day and go there and see what happens,” he emphasized. “If you could take 15 minutes every day and spend it doing something that you really wanted to spend time on, I think the compound interest of that over time is just amazing.”

(That excerpt led to today’s newsletter, “The subtle art of showing up.”)

Big thanks for Rebekah Brandes for her thoughtful questions and great writing.

You can read the whole piece here.